Of trustees, leaders.. jokes and control

That sort of a thing should be that anybody becomes a leader is just a joke.
Otherwise, I have seen people, you make them the trustees they just ride on the horse.You make them something, leader, they ride on the horse. All sorts of things happen.

You make them the trustees...

That should not happen any more, and the leaders must see to the point that they have to become really great evolved avadhutas. Otherwise they cannot impress people. Avadhutas are the people who are extremely compassionate, extremely kind and for you I would say you should follow the example, Tukarama, because he was such a kind and a sweet person, but he said things which were very, very deep and very straightforward. So the forthright behavior need not be so sharp as to cut everybody through. 

Tukaram.

Forthright could be such that it guides the person in the proper way and the plying of a person in this ocean of maya becomes easier. That is what is called the leadership.
Now leadership should not be challenged. Some people have too much ideas from outside, because they think they are something, you see, they know. They are administrators or they are journalists or they have worked as some sort of a politicians or this and that, and they try to control the leaders, is a wrong thing. So now do not try to control the leaders. If there's something wrong I'll correct them. This is very important, because again and again I tell you that once you start challenging the leader I get the pangs of it. So, please do not do it. If you do not want to hurt me, do not challenge the leader as he is.

1985-02/09: Bordi Seminar Final Talk  
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1985-03/17: Birthday Puja, Melbourne, Australia: 

Left Vishuddhi is the problem today of the West, I tell you. All these problems are coming from left Vishuddhi but which is not, in no way is that they're subdued; on the contrary any moment this left Vishuddhi can blow in again into the ego.

From where else...?

You see, I have seen this in the West, very common. People are walking straight forward, everything is all right - even in the cities of India we have seen it - you make them into trustees, suddenly they jump on the horse. I said, "From where did they jump in the horse, from where else this ego has come?" That was all stored up here, you see: as soon as they become trustees the whole thing comes back, and they are sitting like John Gilpin on a horse, going fast. And I start looking at them: where are they going? They were just there - disappeared!  Vanishing tricks! Just can't understand why it happens. But after penetrating into the problems - because I see, just going into this hall you get the left Vishuddhi.

My comment: Mother is not here any-more. She had never let happen that Sahaj got spoiled by wrong doers (once they got lost in their egos and on their horses, She corrected them or they just left !). WE have to assume collectively what "is called leadership". Please go back to the words "pangs" and "hurt". 
WE the collective cannot escape from taking some responsibilities, or we could turn into a kind of a final witness-state, unwillingly  witnessing the falling-off of Her work. Matter exists in order to share love, to convey love, we all have to deal with matter,... matters, situations, and issues.

ACTION without ego: this -is surrender!

{Shri Buddha} So He's the one who is on the right side placed, going to the left side. He's the one who has said that "You have to be desireless," on the right side. What a contrast! Specially in the West, I've seen people do little bit "Huh!" -  What have they done? - "I lifted that spoon." And with the spoon they sit down.  - And they are surprised to see Me that I'm not tired.
But I don't do anything. I mean, I have no desires.
Actually I never do anything; I'm just Nishkriya, I'm just doing nothing.
So, when you become that instrument, surrendered instrument,
when you know you are not doing anything whatsoever,
then on the right side you achieve mastery. 
How you achieve mastery?
You don't do anything, all right?
You go to any shop and you get a jackpot, without doing anything.
You do not desire anything and suddenly you find, which you have never ever thought of is before you, there, sits there, available for you, just have it.
So, with the desire to achieve something, when you work out, it also has a reaction. Every action has a reaction. But  action without desire  cannot have reaction because there's no desire already.

(...) But once you are without ego  - means you have surrendered yourself-    no one can cheat you. Can you understand that? No one can cheat you because there is some higher force, which is looking after you.
This is the way we should understand Buddha. This is ... we should know our Buddha qualities.
This is how our ego can be dissolved. When you say, "Mother, we surrender to You"
That just means that you give that horrible ego a complete holiday, it means that.
That is how this ego disappears.
I think all your, your... just now, your Agnyas are opened out, most of you, somehow. And then you'll laugh at everything; you'll make fun of yourself; just enjoy everything. 

• 1991-08/04: Shri Buddha Puja, Deinze, Belgium

My comment: To surrender does not mean firstly "to surrender actions or responsibilities". First is to surrender this ego, means the idea that there is an "I" that acts, and enjoys the results. Once this "I-ness", this "dropness" (as distinct from the Ocean), disappears,  then action is fruitful, because a "higher force" is allowed to look after us. Shri Mataji has travelled and worked so much, and She stresses the point that She is not tired, because there is no "I" that could have any desire. But,yes, a tremendous compassion to give Realization. But this is another story.

” We are surrendered to Her, and, as surrendering, we’ll get everything." But what are you surrendering?"

Contents: 
...THE REASON I FIND THAT IN THE WEST PEOPLE GO ON CATCHING

....WE ARE NOT HERE ONLY JUST TO HAVE GOOD TIME
...WHAT ARE YOU SURRENDERING… WITH ALL YOUR ARROGANCE?

...I HOPE YOU'LL PAY FULL ATTENTION

• THE REASON I FIND THAT IN THE WEST PEOPLE GO ON CATCHING

…You know that by puja you excite the Chakras within Me and you get lots of vibrations, and you achieve, suddenly, a height in your awareness. You do achieve that, but after some time they say that "Mother, again we come down." Also, they were saying that “When we go to India we are all right, and when we come back again, we come down."

… So ashram is here for a collective living, but collective living of spirituality. … Then only you'll be helped – because if you do not come to the ashram with this idea that you are going there to ascend yourself, it will make no difference whether you stay in the house or you go in the ashram.  

(SB:How is it that so many Ashrams have closed down since 1990? – if they were meant to help to deepen Sahaja yoga? What did happen?)

...So there are two types of meditation, two types, where one is the meditation where – we can call it the antarmana– that we meditate inside ourselves, to see for ourselves what's wrong with us, and how we have to correct, what we have to do about it. And another is bahirmana, is outside, how we have to live outside. You have to have a discipline, which is not imposed on you but, very happily, which you have accepted and have imbibed. …  

( SB:Do we have any discipline? How serious were we about meditating, say, before a puja in Cabella?)

So, for the antarmana it is important that you all should meditate, …

That is the reason I find that in the West people go on catching, again cleaning, again catching.

Every time I come, {I} find somebody is suffering from either, of some sort of a conditioning, or say, some sort of a baddha, or sometimes it's ego, or something.

It comes and goes. It is not something that is detached permanently. …

• WE ARE NOT HERE ONLY JUST TO HAVE GOOD TIME

Day by day, you should be at a much higher state, and this new breeding has to come within us that we are Sahaja yogis,and we are not here only just to have good food and to have  nice time or nice meetings, but we are here to become those unique personalities, which are required to raise the humanity to a higher state. 

(SB:Again:  how much time is dedicated to solve this issue, in Cabella, be it because of  us individuals, be it the agenda of the organizers?)

So you have to be now responsible for yourself.

You have to look after yourself and you have to tell yourself: .    "Mr. So-and-so, Mrs. So-and-so, please now behave yourself."   Otherwise, Sahaja Yoga is lost to you. It's not going to help you much.

 We might increase in quantity, but quality-wise we'll be missing, and one attack of negativity can finish such a quantity that we think is too much – it has happened once! 

(Let’s follow carefully this explanation:are we dangerously placed?)

• WHAT ARE YOU SURRENDERING… WITH ALL YOUR ARROGANCE?

So now, all of you must develop that dedication to yourself, to find out what's your problem, and how you have to correct it. If it is done every day, I can assure you, you will have no problem of any kind. Your thoughts will stop, your problems will be solved, and you'll have no catches at all, because you have washed them off.

.../... Many people say that

"We are surrendered to Mother, and we are surrendered to Her, and as surrendering we’ll get everything."

But what are you surrendering? -Is that a clean heart, or a heart full of all kinds of wrong things? Or is that the intelligence, which is a very superior type of clean intelligence? Or else, are you coming out  with all your arrogance? So, though there is the Ganges of Sahaja Yoga flowing, still you have to have the depth of a pitcher. A stone cannot fetch any water.

(Obviously, “surrendering” might NOT be the solution when WE are responsible, and expected to act. In the Bhagavad Gita, Shri Krishna assured the victory, but Arjuna had to fight)

.../…So you are not achieving all this for your ego. You are achieving it because you are a seeker, and now ,you have become a Sahaja yogi. So it is to be understood that it's not something like an advantage in money wise, or something that I have to have a power, this, that - because, if you do not meditate, your attention will go to such things.

Immediately you'll start thinking:"Can I become the leader?" All right, if not: "Should I debase the leader? How can I insult him? How can I fight for that? How can I do that? How can I work it out this way?" You try to insult also.

If not possible, you might use violence sometimes,anger, because you are not yet, I should say, that much evolved, so much mature, so much wiser.

(SB: Obviously, the divisions, since 2003, 2005, 2011, the conflicts, the , world-wide, national, local splits in the Sangha, even physical fights as have occurred in India, have a cause: the level of meditation IS NOT what it should be in order to fulfill Mother’s wishes. In the following, Shri Mataji admits “and we have many”)

• TO WARN YOURSELF

So now, what you have to do is to … at the very first shot when you get up in the morning, you first say that "Let me see, what is my responsibility, as a Sahaja yogi?"  …"Mother, if I have any ego, please take away. Mother, if I have any conditioning, please take away; because I'm a seeker out and out, I don't want all these things."
But if you do not meditate,then this Mr. Ego will  secretly crawl upon you,and you may try to become the leader, or some sort of an assertion you'll do,some sort of a stupid ego actions, which we have many in Sahaja Yoga.

If you write them down, you will not know how to stop laughing.

So to warn yourself, I would say that the only way to protect yourself is to do the meditation in the morning and evening, and also to keep yourself in complete bandhan.

Yours is a very important role and a very important time, extremely important.

You have no idea, that in the history of spirituality

no one could do so much as you can do.

So, if you really do the antarmana, if you really see inside yourself, while meditating you see yourself, your chakras and all that, and then you find out this introspection, "Why am I like this?" Just separate from yourself, see for yourself, "Why am I like this? Why I did like this? Why do I think like this? Who am I?" 

-these questions, when answered, you will know all your worth, your value. 

Christmas 2010, Genova.

• … I HOPE YOU'LL PAY FULL ATTENTION

I hope you'll pay full attention to what I've said here today, with full attention on your inner being projecting out, like a witness to yourself.
( Mother is not speaking just “by the way”: She stresses that this issue is fundamental)
Now, we are here to gain our spirituality, not to gain money, not to gain positions, powers, nothing. We are here to gain our spirituality, and in that spirituality, it's all there. All the satisfaction, everything is there. …

( and NOTHING else)

1991-04/06: Shri Bhavasagara Puja, Brisbane, chosen extracts

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The huge task that lay ahead - that She saw reflected on Her face in that early photo.

After coming out of that beautiful experience I looked around and I saw human beings so blind and I became absolutely silent. Then I desired that I should get the cups to fill this nectar, but I saw all stones.    
(Sahasrara day, Paris, 1982))

This story is taken from Caleb Williams:

There were so many extraordinary aspects to those times with Shri Mataji in the early days. In some moments She wrapped us all so expertly in Her maya and ‘play’, that it was indeed possible to become totally relaxed, swept up in the feeling,

that to be in Her company was the most normal, natural experience and it was perfectly OK to chat, joke, even watch television with Her, or sip Cokes and eat samosas. 

       But there were other times when, in an instant, She became the Goddess, and promoted the deepest feelings of complete humility, gratitude and an astounded sense that we were in the presence of an absolutely Divine personality. 

    One time we were looking at some early photos with Mother. There was one, a very soulful looking portrait, taken of Her in the early 1970s, a beautiful black and white image.
I remarked on what a lovely photo it was - I think it was the one of Mother standing by a beach in a white sari. 
‘This photo was taken after I opened the collective Sahasrara Chakra. In this photo I even look a bit sad,’ Shri Mataji said, when She looked at it. Danya and I fell silent and waited for Her to say more. She had become very reflective. ‘I look very serious in this photo. At that time I even stopped eating and became a little thin.’ 

Little Nirmala Salve

    Then Mother continued, ‘From birth I knew I was the Goddess, and my job was to save and raise up this doomed humanity.’
My sister Danya and I began to realize we had gone from a casual conversation about photos, to sitting at the feet of Adi Maya.
Shri Mataji then expressed Her feelings on gazing into the collective Sahasrara Chakra of humanity. 
She said that before this had happened, She always felt confident that when the time came She would be able to find a way to do the work of saving us all. 

At a function of the
Shipping Company,
in the 60'es

     She described to us both how it was only when She gazed inside the collective Sahasrara and saw the twisted and tangled nadis there, that revealed all the problems of the human condition, that She realized how hard the job would be, and how complicated, and damaged the human race had become. 
It was these emotions - this realization, of the huge task that lay ahead - that She saw reflected on Her face in that early photo.
    There was nothing that either Danya or myself could say after this. All we could do was sit in silence feeling such profound gratitude for Mother's amazing compassion - Her ability to take on impossible burdens so that all of us could transcend and live better lives.



«1982:...So you become the master of your brain, because actually the Spirit is the master of the brain. The more you start bringing Spirit into your attention, the more the Sahasrara increases in its size and the light of that expands and you become more powerful Sahaja Yogi. 

Shiva Puja, 1987; Ganapatipule

This is the greatest thing also for God Almighty to say, see that this has happened so that He can, for the time being,
postpone His anger and wrath, so that He can forgive human beings for their mistakes, their obstinacy and childish pranks. 
Let the man rise to see the glory and the greatness of his Father!
Let him have so much of power that he can bear the compassion of God!.

Nargol, Spot of the Opening of Sahasrara, View to the See

Let that Sahasrara develop into such dimensions that it can execute the working of the Divine through his own conscious mind. 
(Sahasrara-Day 1982)

• Story taken from: Caleb Williams [SY friends and family group in FaceBook 5:58am,2011, May 5]:
• This story deals with Mother's response to an early photo of Herself taken not long after she had opened the collective sahasrara chakra. Given today's date, 5th May and significance,I thought those who missed it might enjoy reading it now.
• First published 17 May 2011

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unique !!!!!!!!!!! The great bengali poet and realized soul, first Nobel Prize of litterature in india, the one who gave Gandhiji the title of Mahatma, ....

I have allowed you to have My puja only for one reason

This is not sacrifice, this is not even the slightest... the value of what you are going to get, out of proportion it is! I don't know how to tell: it's out of proportion.

... and you know the whole world within yourself.,...

 But that proportion you can only see when you have light. 
When the light starts, it goes to eternity. In the same way this eternal light encompasses the whole world, and you know the whole world within yourself.
So the last chakra is of Sahasrara, which is a very important center because it is in the core of your heart, it's surrounding your heart, and all the seven chakras have got their seats there. 
These are the seats which receive the joy and communicate to the heart.
In Sahasrara, if you are there, already, so many things you have got.

You've got your vibrations, you've got your powers... 
But it's the most tricky center!
It's a Mahamaya - Kalki ,in a Mahamaya shape.
It's a complete illusion. 
In the Sahasrara, the joy of Sahasrara is the joy of the entirety because all seven seats are there,
if 
you can capture your Sahasrara, in complete recognition of this Mahamaya - complete recognition!
- which is a very difficult thing because always the maya is there.
Then, there's nothing to talk about. 
Then, see how your heart enlarges, see now: just recognize!
See the expansion of your heart, it will cover all your entire being, just recognize! That's why we have puja here.

... only for one reason

I have allowed you to have my puja only for one reason:
-is that's the only way you can recognize me
by seeing vibrations, by seeing chakras,
by feeling them, 
by getting them more, by correcting yourself- this is why I've agreed to have this puja.
But if you do not recognize, and do puja, it is useless for you, it's very bad.
 Just recognize!

1979-12/30: Advice on all Chakras: Formal Talk, CKP Hall Mumbai

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A prophecy in 1985...

And don't indulge into internal, nonsensical politics. 

There are others, who are doing it for you, don't you worry!
Just develop your self-awareness

1985-08/06: Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Chelsam Rd, UK