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| Nargol, place of the 5th of May 1970 |
«-you'll get 1200 people for my lecture and next day not even one, all lost! -Because there's no base, you know: like a loose connection.»
“YOU HAVE TO GROW”
1990-August: Public Program, Vancouver Canada
In one program I don't know how much I can tell you about it and we have here a proper Ashram where you can go. We have here people who have their programs where you can go.
But their complaints are that "Mother when You come, I don't know what happens they come to Your program all right but after that they never come and they get lost."
I just don't know why is it so because just what I can do today is like a sprouting of the seed but after that you have to grow into a tree. Unless and until you grow into the tree it's a myth as in your Parable of Christ some fell on the rocky areas. Some fell in the marshy areas like that. It should not be. It should be: it fell into areas where people prospered and became great trees. Let Canada take over.
I think Americans I'm quite disappointed. I don't know what's wrong with them.
They only like falsehood.
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| Sofia 1990 |
I just don't know why is it so because just what I can do today is like a sprouting of the seed but after that you have to grow into a tree. Unless and until you grow into the tree it's a myth as in your Parable of Christ some fell on the rocky areas. Some fell in the marshy areas like that. It should not be. It should be: it fell into areas where people prospered and became great trees. Let Canada take over.
I think Americans I'm quite disappointed. I don't know what's wrong with them.
They only like falsehood.
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“YOU HAVE TO TELL THEM”
1982-0419: The Dawning of Realization, Public Program, Caxton Hall, UK
It's sometimes a surprise to many sahaj yogis when they see around people who have got realization, who have got cool breeze flowing from their hand and they disappear. They just can't understand such people.
Now how it has happened that these people have come to a program, one day, they have got realization, they have got cool breeze and then they have disappeared.
Are they the people who are little-believers or half-baked or mediocre, or what is it? That they have no curiosity any further to go or that they are not intelligent enough to understand that there's something very dynamic, something very new, very natural has happened to them?
It is not a cult, they can see for themselves, because as in a cult there's a mass hysteria or some abnormalities, there's no abnormality with these people, they are very normal.
Now how it has happened that these people have come to a program, one day, they have got realization, they have got cool breeze and then they have disappeared.
Are they the people who are little-believers or half-baked or mediocre, or what is it? That they have no curiosity any further to go or that they are not intelligent enough to understand that there's something very dynamic, something very new, very natural has happened to them?
Despite all these things, all the proof to believe that there is divine Power around us and that now it is flowing through you, is there but still people don't believe in it.
Then why? What is the reason? We have to see what is the reason why we are not able to still accept that this is what it is.
Then why? What is the reason? We have to see what is the reason why we are not able to still accept that this is what it is.
…"But how can it be?"
So: to be compassionate to people who get realization, you have to tell them that, "It is not that you are overpowered by the ocean, but you become the ocean. The drop becomes the ocean, not that the ocean overpowers you."
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Overcome that first hurdle with people
Then it may be that you can go further with the second step where ego is little bit, you see, given assurance that "you won't be finished." The infrastructure has this one problem that ego has separated all your inner being into different parts and anything that ego says or is pampered, is good. Good and ego's happiness are regarded as equal to each other.
.../…There are some here sitting, quite a lot of them, who have felt that way, but you have to have understanding that the inner structure is still to be rebuilt and completely integrated and for this you have to give some time to yourself, some patience to yourself and some compassion, not to be frustrated, disgusted with yourself. Some cases have been very difficult, I know. It's impossible, I have to be very strict with them, I have to thrash them, do all kinds of things. But, still there are cases which are to be thrashed out, doesn't matter: we'll work it together; somehow, we'll manage it. Thrashing doesn't mean real thrashing, but thrashing with love.
And all these things have worked out with so many, so why not with you? But you have to know one thing that you are seekers of ancient times and this is the time that was promised and this is the way you are going to get it. There's no doubt about it and instead of doubting it, please have it. Take it within yourself, allow it to permeate, work it out and see for yourself that the power you have got is the power of God's love.
Now, if you can overcome that first hurdle with people, that you become the ocean, that you become the guru, that you become empowered with your own powers, you have crossed some areas in a personality. And it's a fact; to begin with, it's a fact. But this area actually you get much later on. But better to promise that highest, you see; like people promise that "If you do this, you will get the Kingdom of Heaven."
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| Shri Mataji's hand drawing |
And all these things have worked out with so many, so why not with you? But you have to know one thing that you are seekers of ancient times and this is the time that was promised and this is the way you are going to get it. There's no doubt about it and instead of doubting it, please have it. Take it within yourself, allow it to permeate, work it out and see for yourself that the power you have got is the power of God's love.
Now, if you can overcome that first hurdle with people, that you become the ocean, that you become the guru, that you become empowered with your own powers, you have crossed some areas in a personality. And it's a fact; to begin with, it's a fact. But this area actually you get much later on. But better to promise that highest, you see; like people promise that "If you do this, you will get the Kingdom of Heaven."
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“IT'S A REAL WASTE”
1983-07/23: Ritambara Pragya, Lodge Hill Seminar, UK
A SAHAJA YOGINI: -What happens with those people who got Realization from You at Your programs, but they don't getting to Sahaja Yoga? What happens with them?
SHRI MATAJI: -They don't grow, they advanced. THE SAHAJA YOGINI: -What's the meaning of that... ?
SHRI MATAJI: -That's very bad too. They are seed, which has been sprouted and goes to waste, is a real waste. Because, which is not sprouted, may one day sprout.
It's a real waste I tell you.
But mostly they come back, quite do after come back. They go, come, like that, you see. There's no understanding about the graveness of this kind of a shallow behavior. They don't understand. That's why they behave like this.
But then they'll get something horrible and they come to Sahaja Yoga. They go into problems and then they come, but the progress is so little. I mean the one who must have come with them goes much higher.
You see, not to accept anything comes from a fright that if you accept something, if you accept that there is divine Power, then perhaps you may have no position, no significance.
But mostly they come back, quite do after come back. They go, come, like that, you see. There's no understanding about the graveness of this kind of a shallow behavior. They don't understand. That's why they behave like this.
But then they'll get something horrible and they come to Sahaja Yoga. They go into problems and then they come, but the progress is so little. I mean the one who must have come with them goes much higher.
You see, not to accept anything comes from a fright that if you accept something, if you accept that there is divine Power, then perhaps you may have no position, no significance.
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| Rômania |
England is the heart of the universe, and how could they be so careless about their ascent and so careless about developing their own huge big tree of love. They are the best suited and they have to work it out.
But they don't, they don't take it seriously.
Why?, I don't understand.
Maybe they don't know what they are.
They are very powerful people, they are, I should say, the instrument of the Divine. Only thing, they have to develop.
But they stick on to this or stick on to that - then you can't grow. This is a seed already placed within you - undisturbed, unspoiled.
Only thing is a little water of love has to be poured on it, then the seed sprouts, and when the seed sprouts, it rises, the plumule sprouts out into and it rises, goes up and comes out of your fontanel bone area, which is called as Brahmarandra in Sanskrit language, meaning the hole to feel the Brahma, the All-pervading power.
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“I THINK SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES,
THEY LEAVE BECAUSE:...”
1996-03/10: Talk to Sahaja Yogis in Hong Kong
… They come to your program and then they come to puja and then they disappear. It's all right, now what can you do about it? There's no choice, if they want to disappear let them go away. We cannot force them, but maybe, maybe some of the people do not have proper behavior towards them, maybe.
So you have to be careful how you talk to them and how you approach them. You should not be aggressive with them and all that. Maybe some of the reasons could be that.
So that's very common, you see, they come and they go away.
Because this is the time of Last Judgment, if they want to go to false guru let them go because this is their choice.
You don't have to worry on that point.
But I think sometimes, sometimes they leave because they do not do meditation properly, and I'll tell you what is to be done properly.
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“WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO GIVE US?"
1983-06/13: Public Program, Porchester Hall, UK
Anywhere I have seen wherever there is collectivity, like I would say, Australia has the maximum collectivity, or India of course it has, but Australia, in all of the European countries, also the western style through communities, Australia has the maximum collectivity and they have achieved the maximum results.
Only in Sydney, today only, Warren told Me that the halls like this get packed for programs. Melbourne there is no room for new people who are coming and it's such a big compound I'm amazed. I mean, how many must be going there and it is because of collectivity and as soon as I went there it started gathering up.
But before that people were fighting among themselves and many people ran away from Sahaja Yoga because they thought: "These people are fighting. What are they going to give us?"
Maximum is in Australia, I think. Then is Austria is having some problem there and as soon as the problem came in the whole thing became a very small group. Again that problem is over now. Positivity has come. The people have joined together. Again it has flourished. It happens here also. We have seen why Labor Party lost. If they had not quarreled they would not have been so badly off. It's absolutely a simple equation, "United we stand," isn't it? Is there any other question?
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“THAT, YOU SHOULD NOT DO”
1980-07/28The Guru Principle, Public Program, Hampstead, UK
You all have to be the gurus. I know, first thing you learn is to be very, great hard taskmasters, to begin with.
That, you should not do. You have to be hard taskmaster with yourself. And then, as your Mother, who is your Guru, is very sweet and tolerant, very kind, extremely patient:..
That, you should not do. You have to be hard taskmaster with yourself. And then, as your Mother, who is your Guru, is very sweet and tolerant, very kind, extremely patient:..
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| Russian soldiers |
because we are not dealing with people who are seekers of that quality,
who will do anything to get to God.
We are dealing with people who are confused, absolutely confused. They are saints, but they are confused.
See, people come to our program, disappear. They'll get their Realization and disappear.
Then you have to give them bandhans, this thing. You see they are still confused. And there are so many gurus who are acting, there are so many things that are happening, so we cannot be aggressive with them.
We have to be very patient, and we have to think about our past, how we came to Mother, how She had to convince us, how much we argued with Her, what all we did. So these people are coming, let us try to be kind to them and talk to them, and tell in a way which is congenial, which is beautiful.
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“ THEY WILL SEE FROM YOUR OWN CHARACTER”
1995-0316: How to talk to new people, Thailand
Now I'm surprised at myself, because I'm a foreigner everywhere and so many come. And when it comes to the program and all that follow-up, they disappear. So can't understand what's the matter with them. Why should they disappear?
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| 1980? |
And this will be a very big challenge to all of you, because you are few and they are maybe more.
So always support each other. See, many people start supporting other people instead of supporting sahaja yogis and sometimes they even discuss and argue. So between sahaja yogis there should be no discussions, no argument, nothing. You understand?
Anything that you have to do it, you should do it separately, not before the newcomers, because that creates the worst impression and they think that there's something wrong with these people: "Why were they arguing among themselves?" So you have to just support only sahaja yogis and nobody else. Others are others, we are all one. Once they come to Sahaja Yoga they will also realize.
Anything that you have to do it, you should do it separately, not before the newcomers, because that creates the worst impression and they think that there's something wrong with these people: "Why were they arguing among themselves?" So you have to just support only sahaja yogis and nobody else. Others are others, we are all one. Once they come to Sahaja Yoga they will also realize.
But this sometimes also upsets them very much that we are all the time quarrelling, fighting, saying things - as if we are not one. -----------------------------------
And now,Shri Mataji gives the real explanation:
And now,Shri Mataji gives the real explanation:
“ THERE'S A LITTLE GAP,
WHICH HAS TO BE ACHIEVED.”
1985-08/04: Shri Ganesha Puja,Talk on Chastity,Brighton, UK
If there has to be some self-preservation, this has to be your chastity, your privacy.
That's why you have no willpower to do anything, no willpower.
Let some stupid fellow come and tell you something, you'll say, "All right. We accept."
That's why you have no willpower to do anything, no willpower.
Let some stupid fellow come and tell you something, you'll say, "All right. We accept."
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| Depth... |
And in Sahaja Yoga you can re-establish everything whatever you have lost, you can.
That's why the depth is lacking.
And this is the reason there is no consistency in the temperament of people, no consistency.
Now you'll get twelve hundred people for My lecture and next day not even one, all lost.
Because there's no base, you know. Like a loose connection. There's no connection, connection point is your chastity.
Because there's no base, you know. Like a loose connection. There's no connection, connection point is your chastity.
So there is no consistency, sthaapayati [Indian - means "nature of being established"?] is not there. If you tell them, "You have to get up in the morning, have a bath, do some puja," it's too much for them! But if you tell, say an Indian ladie or to Me, if you say that "that you wear such and such dress," I just can't, I just can't, no, not possible. Is not possible. I can keep the whole night awake, but that thing I cannot do, just cannot do it.
So the priorities are changed because: where is your attention? You have everything within you. You are the storehouse of chastity, which is your power. Everything within you, nothing has gone out, it's all there. All that fragrance is within you. Is all preserved, don't condemn yourself.
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| Seminar in Cali (the city of the "Drug-Cartel"), 2006 |
Do you understand that point? -You don't have to go to Himalayas; you don't have to stand on your heads. You don't have to do anything like that. You see, formerly these saints used to sit, you know, you won't believe, in the cold frozen water or on the Himalayas in the open they used to sit for hours together to freeze their nonsensical ideas. Now that's not necessary. It's all made very easy.
But change your priorities now. The whole attention once goes to your own Spirit you'll be surprised the whole chart will change.
What's the most important thing? To meditate every day. I have seen people who want to do some course, say, for example, I told that "You better do some course." Every day they will go for that course and join that class and they will work it out and they'll pass that course and do it up and finish it. But meditation they cannot do regularly.
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| 1994, Bogota |
But now there's a little gap:
you should understand, that once we get the inkling of that joy which is eternal, we start moving towards that more and more, more and more, and establishing ourselves in the ocean of that joy.A little.
You see, when somebody wants you to swim, you are frightened, you don't want to do it, you are very happy on the gross shore, you don't want to swim. Somebody pushes you, again you are back, "No, baba, I can not do it." But once you learn to swim you enjoy that swimming.
And when you like it then you want to do it every day, regularly, religiously.
So there's a little gap, which has to be achieved.
Second point is that as I've been always saying, you are lotuses, but under a mire.So there's a little gap, which has to be achieved.
And you know what mire is, while India is the ocean, so it's very easy for the lotuses to come out of the water.
But to come out of the mire is very difficult.
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