«...What is the collective problem? - Then you have no doubts about...»

ON NIRVIKALPA : 1977, and still unknown...

Supposing you have been doing lot of, see, light puja, you see, what you call the Jyoti Puja, in your previous lives, then you can see My vibrations. There are two, three people who can see My vibrations coming and going; they see all the movement [of it?].

Supposing you have been doing Devi Pujas, so you are a Devi [pujari?], you are a (I Hindi word) of the Devi Puja, then you see some things of Devi’s (Hindi word). You can see that also. That is a better thing than to see before. Because if you see before realization, means you are a possessed person, somebody is giving you ideas. After realization you start seeing certain things, then it has some meaning. So the gradual growth of the flower starts.

Then the second stage where you become nirvikalpa, where there is no vikalpa. 
Just now in Delhi there are very few who are like that, very few.

Because, first of all, by temperament they {human beings}are vikalpis [ED. ‘doubters’].
The reason is, here is a complete atmosphere of vikalpa.

If you say something, another one will pull you down by saying something else. So, [the thing is?], the whole atmosphere is so vikalpi that you are not yet subtle about it, about the Sahaja Yoga, still in vikalpa. But we have some very great sahaja yogis also in Delhi, very great. So the vikalpa is there. 

Now you will say, “How do you become nirvikalpa?”

Supposing you are in the water, you are afraid of getting drowned. You are picked up and put in the boat so you are not afraid of becoming drowned. But when are you settled? When you are settled. I mean, it is such a state that: “When are you settled in a boat? When you are settled in a boat.” I mean, that’s all I can answer you - you have to be settled.

But when you bring your "Spirit' to your brain-

this is the second state-

then you really become Self-realized, 

in the full way.(Shiva 1984)

But with that you get certain powers: your Kundalini starts showing, you see. 

We have in Bombay some people whose Kundalini is at least one foot higher, one foot high, you can see it. You can or may not, but so many people can see that, and they are very deep people, very deep.
At the nirvikalpa state, the collective consciousness becomes very subtle, subtler, subtler. At that stage you can understand very deep significances of things, and the reality starts becoming clearer.
For example, you start understanding the working of the Kundalini, you start understanding how it penetrates, you start understanding how it works out, you can use it for experimentation, with your own hand you can move it as you like. You can cure people and you can show the Kundalini is working in different ways. You can combine the permutations and combinations of Kundalini, you can do.
You can say that in the first year of music you just learn the seven notes and two other notes [just like that?] and ordinary ragas. But when you grow subtler and higher, then you know all the minute points how to create.

So at the nirvikalpa you need not put your hand towards the person, nothing, sitting down you know where it is. What is happening? Who is catching? What is the problem? What is the collective problem? Then you have no doubts about Sahaja Yog, nor about Kundalini, nor about anything, no doubts at all. But at that time you start experimenting with it, you start using it, mastery starts. At this stage the chitta, the consciousness, becomes subtler.

Now, somebody was sitting with Me: outside they knew that this gentleman is going to get realization, they knew that Mother was giving realization to someone.
Such people are very satisfied people; they do not grudge and grumble about small things. They do not enter into small things at all, they are not bothered, they live in a big way. They are not touched. Their attention is not in the gross, they have no time for outside gross things. So their attention is very deep into the subtle forms. They are not bothered. 

Such people are satisfied souls.
Such people are the ones who are going to create a pillar for Sahaja Yoga. 

Because when somebody sees such a person, a transformed person like that:

 “Just look at this man! He’s such a great person and he was such a horrid man -and how has he become like this? How he has {been}transformed!” 

At this stage, at the nirvikalpa state, the vibrations emit. 

Then you can sit with Me and you start giving. Then there is no questioning at all. 

And such a man can get into a terrible temper, if he sees somebody misbehaving with Me: 

he can’t bear misbehaving with Me.

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TALK AND WORKSHOP TO NEW PEOPLE

Melbourne 13 March 1983. Video capture.

So we have to sort them out to begin with, because
the second stage of awareness is doubtless awareness: 
you are doubtless
about yourself,
doubtless about the working of Sahaja Yoga,
doubtless about God’s existence,
doubtless about His Laws.
You become absolutely doubtless, not mentally, it’s a state.
It’s a state of your being by which you achieve lots of results and you really become powerful: you can see your compassion so powerful, so discrete, so understanding, so forbearing.
 And you are amazed of yourself, you really become a saint in the real sense of the word, that you become humble, flowering, beautifully, not taking anything aggressive upon yourself; and you are really in the Kingdom of God that you feel that you are looked after, protected, guided, blessed, every moment you walk along.

And that’s the state everybody should aspire to reach, this doubtless awareness;
and unless and until you reach that state, 
we don’t call you sahaja yogi,
you may start calling yourself, but that’s left to yourself.
There are not sort of… we do not have sort of certification, or things going on; or we do not give any written certificates to people, nothing of the kind.
It is you who have to certify yourself.
So gradually people grow up into beautiful beings. They start having their self esteem fully established, understanding themselves.

http://www.nirmalavidya.org/en/catalogs/events/detail/3301.html

 Converation with yogis. Melbourne (Australia), 13 March 1983.

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