M:C-S SwayamBlog: “…free people. Nobody has to govern you.”

Tuesday, October 11, 2011

“…free people. Nobody has to govern you.”

1992-02/13: Picnic with Yogis, Black Mountain Peninsula, Canberra...

“… … Australians are, that way very spiritually good I should say, whatever may be the reason, because of Nature or whatever.
But certain things are missing in them.
One is the social: how they relate to each other. That's rather a missing point. So this is a problem. So, in collective, they are not so good.
Individually they are good. Individuals are very good.
But into collective, something goes wrong with them. Also, if you have a leader - so-"called", leadership is so-called!- sometimes, they become slaves to the leaders. I mean, so much things they did, these leaders, horrible things!

Management book, India

None of them reported it!
Nobody told me anything!
I was shocked, that these leaders are trying to dominate us, they are doing these things,they are making money. Nothing: so frightened! Like a jailer and a prisoner's attitude!This, nowhere I find like that.

Yogi: Are you talking about Sahaja Yogis in Australia?
Shri Mataji: It happened. Horrible things happened.
Yogi: In the past.

Shri Mataji: In the past.. Even now, collective - take it- is like Melbourne, is no good. We have to do a lot there. But leaders are- that's a myth! You have to tell me. Of course, you are free to tell Me. Nobody can stop you from telling Me. Unless and until I discovered it, nobody told Me.

So docile! I was shocked.
You are free people.
Nobody has to govern you.
Very much frightened!

"Chicken run"

Yogi: Well, I only know Canberra, and certainly there is no one domineering or exploiting us in Canberra, that's for sure. And I'll tell you next year if it's changed.
Shri Mataji: After all I'm Your Mother, and if they tell: 'Mother said so'. You can always ask Me.
And you must know My Style. I would never say certain things.

"Hunchback of notre-Dame", Frollo

There's nothing like priesthood,
nothing like hierarchy in Sahaja Yoga.
I was surprised even very intelligent people, were like that: because you were so frightened, that's why they become like that. At least you can write to Me.
They were collecting money, without asking Me, for some sort of a purpose I don't know what. I never knew for years. That's not good. I didn't receive and when they asked Me questions I was surprised. They said: 'We sent so much money to You'. I said: 'When?' There's nothing hidden in Sahaja Yoga. Nothing! Everything is an open book. All accounts, everything! Open book! Of course, if you ask Me I don't know, because I don't keep any accounts, I don't keep any money. But it's all there.

Tian An Men, 1989.

It's checked and audited, and if your leader is not doing that you should find out and let Me know because that's also your duty.

Yogi: It's surprising that people wouldn't tell You because You are so approachable. - Shri Mataji: Just imagine!

Yogi: I suppose it's a question of balance between You as a Person and You as the Divine and now we sit here and we chat with You, You have your lunch and we talk about anything. -Shri Mataji: It's … to Me also. -Yogi: At other times it's in a different mode, we must balance it.

Shri Mataji: So many times I've said that leadership has no meaning. It doesn't go into their heads. See we have to establish a new society, of complete freedom within you, freedom from drugs, freedom from any bad habits. A pure life.

Nobody can intimidate you. Every time, I had to find it.

Yogi: Mother, there were quite a few people from Melbourne who had written letters to give to Stephan to give to You. I was wondering whether they had come through?

Shri Mataji: No: if you think, whatever your problems are you can solve well and good. Otherwise you must write to Me.

Yogis: We did. We gave so many letters...
Stephan: Shri Mataji, we gave You some in Madras. There were three quarters of the collective had signed and written letters to You about problems we have in Melbourne and we gave them to Stephan to hand over to You.

Shri Mataji: That's why I am here now.

Yogi: Thank-you Mother.

Shri Mataji: It's rather complicated. I'll have to play some tricks with them.

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AnonymousOctober 11, 2011 at 3:43 PM
Yes Sahajayogies are free people and nobody can rule them as Mother says. In fact , now they are so free that they are behaving like shepherdless goats in tatters , running here and there without any direction and attacking each other.
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SadaShivaOctober 13, 2011 at 3:32 AM
dear anonymous brother, thank you for your comment, but I believe that there is a mistake. Yogis are not attacking each other. Trustees and leaders do. This leader goes with his followers to disturb the public program of another group in Pune. That leader lest Ganapatipule to Pawar who is a rakshasa... Sahaja yogis brothers should understand they are the Spirit ( this is a condition)and they are free, and that they should be strong enough to put the pressure on those people and bring them back to their senses.
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«Hallucination ....out of compassion ! - the game of power...»

It's said that at Sahasrara the Goddess incarnates as Mahamaya; because the job She has to do is of a very different nature. At the heart chakra, Anhata, She has to just defend, just defend the seekers from the clutches of the evil forces which are also not so subtle. They are very gross-like forms, human forms. And it's easy to fight and have a war with them, kill them.

But at the point of Sahasrara, the work is very complicated. First of all, the Sahasrara of the human beings is itself a very complicated thing. First of all, it's not that the time is very precarious, but also every country has its own complication to add to Sahasrara. Apart from that, you know, in Sahasrara we have got the seats of all the centers, not only the seven centers we are dealing with. And so many Nadis... are worked out through Sahasrara.
(...) But today, it being incarnated in it's full force, is acting through you. Is acting towards you.
It is helping you in a very big way, which I don't know if the complicated brains are aware of. So many dimensions it is working, because first of all, we have this horrible thing called ego. ... Many people, in Sahaj Yoga also, think like that, start thinking that they are something great.

... With some people it may act in a way that you want to enjoy the game of power, those who have missed it or those who know how to use it.
There could be another type who are the ones who think they have always suffered and they are suffering now also.
There can be another type of a group of people, who - when they come to Sahaj Yoga - they have complications of emotions. I know of some people, I've heard, that they felt attraction for a man or a woman and they started behaving in that fashion - after coming to Sahaj Yoga.
Sometimes the attraction to money, attraction to greed and lust becomes subtler.
...
So the Mahamaya being the subtler force, - is the subtlest of all!, which you cannot understand and can explain through your brains, at all - acts and just stupefies, it stupefies them. Unless and until that is done they cannot stop it, they cannot cut themselves away. They - in a subtler way - they remain the same, but not aware of it. People who are miserly become miserly, in a very subtle way, in a very sophisticated way, but they are miserly. Those who are dominating become dominating in a subtler way.
... And that's why the Mahamaya acts. First of all it stupefies you, completely. So you realize that whatever you think or react to something, to certain situations, it's a Maya, is just a hallucination created.

....
"Maha" means the great, because it has all the powers of all the Deities, it controls all the Deities; it surmounts over all the Deities.
And "Maya" also means love and compassion. All this effort for what? People don't understand. In the west people don't understand why am I doing it? There must be some reason:-It's compassion!
But the play of the compassion comes through the Mahamaya power. ...
( 1985-04/20: Mahamaya Shakti, Part 1, Birmingham, UK)

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011

“…free people. Nobody has to govern you.”

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