This a fundamental explanation about Vibratory awareness.
Please understand that this reading requires a lot of attention.
Shri Mataji describes the current state of 1977. She speaks of "born-realized", in the sense of great saints. She also explains what She was expecting from us, newly realized persons, to rise to higher levels.
Swayamblogger believed that titles would help.The whole text is to be found following the link at the end.
Sukshma means subtle
WHAT IS SUKSHMA ?
[About chakras:] So we came to a point where I said that, “In the gross they’re expressed as plexus in the human being.” Now this is known as the gross (inaudible) now in the gross form you have to see, the sukshma as they call it, the subtle form.
The subtle form exists in the human being, which you can see you have seen, the subtle form as energy when it starts pulsating, you have seen the pulsation.
But this subtle form is in two forms you can say, one is a sukshma and then atti sukshma.
Because in the sukshma you can see and a person who is a realized soul, if you are a realized soul then you see even the chakras, in the sense you can feel the chakras on your fingers.
A unrealized soul can see the pulsation of the Kundalini and the different chakras with his own eyes, he can, if he watches it clearly, he can see the different chakras clearly, and you as Sahaja Yogis can feel them on your fingers and also can feel them within yourself in the collective consciousness.
There is, you can say in the second stage of sukshma.
There are three stages as you can say sukshma, sukshma taras and sukshma tuma, three stages you can see.
THE 3 SUKSHMA PERCEPTIONS
The first stage you see is on your finger is the sukshma karana you can say, but
with the eye you see is a sukshma
and if your fingers or on your chakras when you feel it is, you can say is sukshma tuma.
So you see them in three forms.
THE FOURTH WAY: JUST TO KNOW
So you can feel it in three ways but there’s a fourth way where you can say it is in the Karana.
Karana state that’s the higher state where a realized soul can feel it. He’s born as a realized soul, can feel it and in that state,
they just know like a computer.
They don’t bother as to which is the one, and they don’t put hands or anything, they just feel it, it is so.
As you have seen in my granddaughter case she just knows what is what. Just you ask her she immediately says this is this, this is this, this is this, like that. It comes plain to them absolutely this is this. Now you may say that how do they know?
But this procedure becomes such a compact thing, I mean it just happens to you
Like a pin pricking here, immediately the hand goes back, sort of, the whole reflex action is so quick, that we can say there is no procedure as such it is just a reflex action. In the same way it acts as a reflex action so that, you see you don’t have to worry about the purpose of it.
That is state where we say the Karana state is reached.
THE 3 GUNAS OF THE KARANA PERCEPTION
And in Mahakarana state, now this is the third stage is it, and even in the karana stage there are three stages into which one feels it. Now this, I would say that, I need not explain because that’s beyond you people [=ordinary persons].
But if you are born realized you will understand that imbalance in a personality of the three gunas, is immediately pursued by a born realized soul, immediately pursued you can feel. That’s the wisdom he’s gained in his previous lives . Immediately they can see the imbalance that comes in you see, and whatever they say is so wise and they understand because they can see the imbalance of these three gunas and according to their own gunas which ever are prevalent in them, these three stages exist in them the way they say.
KARANA PERCEPTIONS ACCORDING TO THE MAIN GUNA
For example some people have a say, are more say tamo gunis, means the ones who are very emotional type people, among them some are very emotional. So they see a person through the emotions, you see the way they feel in themselves they call it the feeling. “I had a feeling for such a person. I felt that way.” That is the word they use.
But supposing the person is rajo guni he has been more towards the, going through say, he has been working on the rajo guna like praying to Surya and praying to doing Gayatri then praying to all the heavenly bodies and also the five elements, like that. You see has been doing yagnyas and all those things he’s a rajo guni. Such people see them as light as electrical form, so they see them as colors and things you see this is this.
So one sees it as an emotional thing another sees it as a color or you can say as any form. They see them as form or colors, like they see as electrical currents and some them as a different flowers. Now we are feelings and also they are love, means rajo guni expressions, which you can see with your eye, see the creation itself. But they’re also feelings so those who can see feelings more, a person who has been very loving and has dealt in this side of life, who has been a bhakti man you can say, a dedicated man, who has been praying to God and crying for Him and asking for His help and weeping before Him with all his heart.
KARANA PERCEPTIONS OF RAJO GUNIS - Sanskrit and Devayani.
Such a man will feel a person more,
and a person who is a more dedicated say to forms and things he’ll see them in a different way, as forms, so then they see them in colors because they’re also colors. They’re also colors and they’re also sounds. So the sounds is also one of the elements, so they can see a sound.
They also see them when the Kundalini moves you see, they see the sound moving and they also saw. Most of the people who have seen this have been the people who have been meditating through this we can say, the Patanjali style of meditation where there’s a single people Parashurama style.
And they saw these forms and they saw the movement of the Kundalini through the chakras when it passes it creates a sound, a word. And so they studied every sound how this sound was created, what sound was created what color was there.
And so it is a one sided knowledge of the right hand side of the people who went to the right hand side that they say that, “This thing was created, that thing was created” and then “This sound was created.”
Then they formed the language, is original Sanskrit language which was formed that’s why it’s called as a Devayani and that’s why these Deities understand Sanskrit the best. When you say Sanskrit mantras you see, they absolutely understand them very fast because this has come originally from there. They studied that and then they closed off.
But other language is in India, most of the languages were taken from Sanskrit converted into something else, brought to another form and then another Sanskrit , Hindi five languages, and all these, these languages came.
So it is variegation, other languages in other countries that came up you see, was also of course the expression of the Kundalini but they learnt it more from the, the words came from the, more from the outside you see, the sound of the air flowing they call it, so they call it airs like that. And from the nature what ever they learnt from outside, because the approach has been more objective, so objective approach is always little less than the subjective because subjective is from inside and objective is form outside. So when you go from the objective the deviation into the main sound that are coming from the inside, this is the purity is little bit deviated. As you know what is objective and subjectivity approach. So this is, happened with some languages. Some languages are very, very close to Sanskrit and, but they too took a turn according to their gunas.
KARANA PERCEPTIONS OF SATWA GUNIS .
Now, the Satya guni, the central path or the Satwa guni as they call it you see. There also the people who have Satwa guna more in them they see chakras in the right form.
But Satwa guni should not be confused with the people who believe that if you eat this then this is satwik, if you eat that that is tamsik or if you say this, this is satwik or if you do not kill anybody then it is satwik in this the right perception comes in.
For example, you have to explain why Krishna killed so many rakshas’s because actually it is Sat, is dharmic, absolutely dharmic.
Why Durga killed so many rakshas. She had to eat the blood of so many rakshasas.
So whatever is dharmic, the wisdom, the right path comes through such people who are neither to much this side, neither that side and they know exactly what is the right way of looking at life.
Such born realized people this is a very, very far-fetched stuff they are very few.
I would say perhaps you can say Buddha and Mahavira are the only two human beings who have gone through many lives, from one extreme to another they went and ultimately they found out that going to the extremes is not proper.
Still they have not reached the complete height of an incarnation.
So the model was to be created who would all the time giving a fixed point for a person to rise to that. And these are the different models, which are placed within us on our chakras and these models area perfect one, belonging to those chakras. So according to the nature of the person who is watching these chakras one sees them and gives them importance also.
ABOUT US SAHAJA YOGIS
[What you can see/feel]
Rajo gunis...: So it depends on, so it’s nothing important. Supposing you see something, all right!, there you can see it is a good thing. But that doesn’t mean that you should stick on to those tthings but you must try to do what you don’t see.
For example, now you see the light coming out of somebody’s head, now that’s one side of looking at things.
Tamo gunis...: Another is that you can feel the other person, if you feel the other person how he is, how he meets you, how you are coming closer to that person. Can you feel that compassion for him that he’s not where you are? That’s also is another balancing (stuff.) But this is very dangerous for some people who try to be helpful to others when they are not themselves solidified properly.
A warning...balance yourself
So I would again warn you that when you start seeing lights and all that, try to remember that you are going on one side and you are seeing more and : be more compassionate in your tongues, in your talking and behavior! Try to have more love! Means right hand side is more developing the left is less, is the heart.
So you have to raise your Kundalini from right and left, but it’s not mechanical it works out. It’s only thinking about it, “Oh, I have to develop my heart more,” the balance has to be there.
This also should develop feeling for others. Now the feeling for others cannot be explained as "I feel for others".
I just see someone is crying anywhere I just get tears into my eyes automatically. Even if you are not crying and you can feel hurt about; things I get this hurt feeling within Myself. Like that you should really feel that hurt feeling and that desperate feeling and that cry. Of course I mean, it comes to some people too much but they do not have the other side.
So you should have both the sides and both the balancing directors within you.
So those who are seeing things more should not go on bothering about what they’re feeling becoming them is, all right, because they have done that sort of tapasya through their seeking and it helps Sahaja Yoga very much because you can see for yourself who is realize who’s not realized .
But still the dryness is in you so if it is in you, you should try to develop it. So what ever you don’t have, you try to develop that, and whatever you have, don’t be satisfied with that!
That’s the best way you can rise.
You see: Those people who can see things should try to feel others. Those who can feel others should see things and it will work out that way.
WE ARE EXPECTED TO GET TO MAHAKARANA STATE:
So this is what it is and in the Mahakarana state where the Mahakarana is, that is a very, very subtlest form, state where the chakra which have got the Deities are connected with the, sort of reflection of the Deity of the Virata.
Now these Deities in the Virata are reflected in you, are awakened in you and they start moving and making the whole thing work out, as it should.
Up to the Karana state it is very good but the Mahakarana is the state where it is the real what you call the optic, optic and deflection. When you can come up to the optic which is a really deep state of mind where you are with the optic and when you are at the optic you are very close to an incarnation state.
So we can say that as far as you people are concerned
you should try to understand up to Karana state,
because beyond that how to jump and how to go is not the question just now.
Please understand that this reading requires a lot of attention.
Shri Mataji describes the current state of 1977. She speaks of "born-realized", in the sense of great saints. She also explains what She was expecting from us, newly realized persons, to rise to higher levels.
Swayamblogger believed that titles would help.The whole text is to be found following the link at the end.
Sukshma means subtle
WHAT IS SUKSHMA ?
[About chakras:] So we came to a point where I said that, “In the gross they’re expressed as plexus in the human being.” Now this is known as the gross (inaudible) now in the gross form you have to see, the sukshma as they call it, the subtle form.
The subtle form exists in the human being, which you can see you have seen, the subtle form as energy when it starts pulsating, you have seen the pulsation.
But this subtle form is in two forms you can say, one is a sukshma and then atti sukshma.
Because in the sukshma you can see and a person who is a realized soul, if you are a realized soul then you see even the chakras, in the sense you can feel the chakras on your fingers.
A unrealized soul can see the pulsation of the Kundalini and the different chakras with his own eyes, he can, if he watches it clearly, he can see the different chakras clearly, and you as Sahaja Yogis can feel them on your fingers and also can feel them within yourself in the collective consciousness.
There is, you can say in the second stage of sukshma.
There are three stages as you can say sukshma, sukshma taras and sukshma tuma, three stages you can see.
THE 3 SUKSHMA PERCEPTIONS
The first stage you see is on your finger is the sukshma karana you can say, but
with the eye you see is a sukshma
and if your fingers or on your chakras when you feel it is, you can say is sukshma tuma.
So you see them in three forms.
THE FOURTH WAY: JUST TO KNOW
So you can feel it in three ways but there’s a fourth way where you can say it is in the Karana.
Karana state that’s the higher state where a realized soul can feel it. He’s born as a realized soul, can feel it and in that state,
they just know like a computer.
They don’t bother as to which is the one, and they don’t put hands or anything, they just feel it, it is so.
As you have seen in my granddaughter case she just knows what is what. Just you ask her she immediately says this is this, this is this, this is this, like that. It comes plain to them absolutely this is this. Now you may say that how do they know?
But this procedure becomes such a compact thing, I mean it just happens to you
Like a pin pricking here, immediately the hand goes back, sort of, the whole reflex action is so quick, that we can say there is no procedure as such it is just a reflex action. In the same way it acts as a reflex action so that, you see you don’t have to worry about the purpose of it.
That is state where we say the Karana state is reached.
THE 3 GUNAS OF THE KARANA PERCEPTION
And in Mahakarana state, now this is the third stage is it, and even in the karana stage there are three stages into which one feels it. Now this, I would say that, I need not explain because that’s beyond you people [=ordinary persons].
But if you are born realized you will understand that imbalance in a personality of the three gunas, is immediately pursued by a born realized soul, immediately pursued you can feel. That’s the wisdom he’s gained in his previous lives . Immediately they can see the imbalance that comes in you see, and whatever they say is so wise and they understand because they can see the imbalance of these three gunas and according to their own gunas which ever are prevalent in them, these three stages exist in them the way they say.
KARANA PERCEPTIONS ACCORDING TO THE MAIN GUNA
For example some people have a say, are more say tamo gunis, means the ones who are very emotional type people, among them some are very emotional. So they see a person through the emotions, you see the way they feel in themselves they call it the feeling. “I had a feeling for such a person. I felt that way.” That is the word they use.
But supposing the person is rajo guni he has been more towards the, going through say, he has been working on the rajo guna like praying to Surya and praying to doing Gayatri then praying to all the heavenly bodies and also the five elements, like that. You see has been doing yagnyas and all those things he’s a rajo guni. Such people see them as light as electrical form, so they see them as colors and things you see this is this.
So one sees it as an emotional thing another sees it as a color or you can say as any form. They see them as form or colors, like they see as electrical currents and some them as a different flowers. Now we are feelings and also they are love, means rajo guni expressions, which you can see with your eye, see the creation itself. But they’re also feelings so those who can see feelings more, a person who has been very loving and has dealt in this side of life, who has been a bhakti man you can say, a dedicated man, who has been praying to God and crying for Him and asking for His help and weeping before Him with all his heart.
KARANA PERCEPTIONS OF RAJO GUNIS - Sanskrit and Devayani.
Such a man will feel a person more,
and a person who is a more dedicated say to forms and things he’ll see them in a different way, as forms, so then they see them in colors because they’re also colors. They’re also colors and they’re also sounds. So the sounds is also one of the elements, so they can see a sound.
They also see them when the Kundalini moves you see, they see the sound moving and they also saw. Most of the people who have seen this have been the people who have been meditating through this we can say, the Patanjali style of meditation where there’s a single people Parashurama style.
And they saw these forms and they saw the movement of the Kundalini through the chakras when it passes it creates a sound, a word. And so they studied every sound how this sound was created, what sound was created what color was there.
And so it is a one sided knowledge of the right hand side of the people who went to the right hand side that they say that, “This thing was created, that thing was created” and then “This sound was created.”
Then they formed the language, is original Sanskrit language which was formed that’s why it’s called as a Devayani and that’s why these Deities understand Sanskrit the best. When you say Sanskrit mantras you see, they absolutely understand them very fast because this has come originally from there. They studied that and then they closed off.
But other language is in India, most of the languages were taken from Sanskrit converted into something else, brought to another form and then another Sanskrit , Hindi five languages, and all these, these languages came.
So it is variegation, other languages in other countries that came up you see, was also of course the expression of the Kundalini but they learnt it more from the, the words came from the, more from the outside you see, the sound of the air flowing they call it, so they call it airs like that. And from the nature what ever they learnt from outside, because the approach has been more objective, so objective approach is always little less than the subjective because subjective is from inside and objective is form outside. So when you go from the objective the deviation into the main sound that are coming from the inside, this is the purity is little bit deviated. As you know what is objective and subjectivity approach. So this is, happened with some languages. Some languages are very, very close to Sanskrit and, but they too took a turn according to their gunas.
KARANA PERCEPTIONS OF SATWA GUNIS .
Now, the Satya guni, the central path or the Satwa guni as they call it you see. There also the people who have Satwa guna more in them they see chakras in the right form.
But Satwa guni should not be confused with the people who believe that if you eat this then this is satwik, if you eat that that is tamsik or if you say this, this is satwik or if you do not kill anybody then it is satwik in this the right perception comes in.
For example, you have to explain why Krishna killed so many rakshas’s because actually it is Sat, is dharmic, absolutely dharmic.
Why Durga killed so many rakshas. She had to eat the blood of so many rakshasas.
So whatever is dharmic, the wisdom, the right path comes through such people who are neither to much this side, neither that side and they know exactly what is the right way of looking at life.
Such born realized people this is a very, very far-fetched stuff they are very few.
I would say perhaps you can say Buddha and Mahavira are the only two human beings who have gone through many lives, from one extreme to another they went and ultimately they found out that going to the extremes is not proper.
Still they have not reached the complete height of an incarnation.
So the model was to be created who would all the time giving a fixed point for a person to rise to that. And these are the different models, which are placed within us on our chakras and these models area perfect one, belonging to those chakras. So according to the nature of the person who is watching these chakras one sees them and gives them importance also.
ABOUT US SAHAJA YOGIS
[What you can see/feel]
Rajo gunis...: So it depends on, so it’s nothing important. Supposing you see something, all right!, there you can see it is a good thing. But that doesn’t mean that you should stick on to those tthings but you must try to do what you don’t see.
For example, now you see the light coming out of somebody’s head, now that’s one side of looking at things.
Tamo gunis...: Another is that you can feel the other person, if you feel the other person how he is, how he meets you, how you are coming closer to that person. Can you feel that compassion for him that he’s not where you are? That’s also is another balancing (stuff.) But this is very dangerous for some people who try to be helpful to others when they are not themselves solidified properly.
A warning...balance yourself
So I would again warn you that when you start seeing lights and all that, try to remember that you are going on one side and you are seeing more and : be more compassionate in your tongues, in your talking and behavior! Try to have more love! Means right hand side is more developing the left is less, is the heart.
So you have to raise your Kundalini from right and left, but it’s not mechanical it works out. It’s only thinking about it, “Oh, I have to develop my heart more,” the balance has to be there.
This also should develop feeling for others. Now the feeling for others cannot be explained as "I feel for others".
I just see someone is crying anywhere I just get tears into my eyes automatically. Even if you are not crying and you can feel hurt about; things I get this hurt feeling within Myself. Like that you should really feel that hurt feeling and that desperate feeling and that cry. Of course I mean, it comes to some people too much but they do not have the other side.
So you should have both the sides and both the balancing directors within you.
So those who are seeing things more should not go on bothering about what they’re feeling becoming them is, all right, because they have done that sort of tapasya through their seeking and it helps Sahaja Yoga very much because you can see for yourself who is realize who’s not realized .
But still the dryness is in you so if it is in you, you should try to develop it. So what ever you don’t have, you try to develop that, and whatever you have, don’t be satisfied with that!
That’s the best way you can rise.
You see: Those people who can see things should try to feel others. Those who can feel others should see things and it will work out that way.
WE ARE EXPECTED TO GET TO MAHAKARANA STATE:
So this is what it is and in the Mahakarana state where the Mahakarana is, that is a very, very subtlest form, state where the chakra which have got the Deities are connected with the, sort of reflection of the Deity of the Virata.
Now these Deities in the Virata are reflected in you, are awakened in you and they start moving and making the whole thing work out, as it should.
Up to the Karana state it is very good but the Mahakarana is the state where it is the real what you call the optic, optic and deflection. When you can come up to the optic which is a really deep state of mind where you are with the optic and when you are at the optic you are very close to an incarnation state.
So we can say that as far as you people are concerned
you should try to understand up to Karana state,
because beyond that how to jump and how to go is not the question just now.
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