WHAT IS OUR RELIGION ? -1-

Krishna River projects/Brahmapuri trust

Because this is the last leg I would say, when I will be talking to you about all these things and in the beautiful atmos-phere, here, and on the bank of Krishna river.We have to understand that the river flows, it makes a sound. It makes a sound to show that she, it exists. But we are not only the rivers. We are all the mountains, rivers, everything of the universe we are. And our manifestation is like a big zero as if the Mother Earth has been emptied out. 
It is time that we should watch ourselves and see ourselves. What's wrong with us? 

Very important! 
I had to say this once again, and again but I don't like to say these things because I love you so much. And I care for you so much. And you people also love Me. 
But loving is not sufficient, you have to love yourself and respect yourself. Only your self is going to work out. 

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As Shivaji Maharaj has said, ' Swa dharma Wadwa' 
'You must develop the religion of your spirit'. 
That's what we have to do. Is to develop the religion of our spirit. 
And once it happens, we can get the whole world completely emancipated. 
This is our work. 
And if we fail, then it is the responsibility of Sahaja yogis and nobody else. So for everyone I have to tell you that I don't have to please you, you have to please me.(*)
For a small thing people react. For a small thing they feel bad. If I don't smile at somebody they feel bad. In little, little things they feel bad and they react. If I say anything, they react. 
So how can anything go into you? 

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If it is such a convexity, how will you absorb it? It is important that we should try to absorb with humility, with under-standing. 
Now you are Sahaja yogis, you know I am Adishakti. You have had photographs, you have known that I am Adishakti. But how much are we absorbing? How much we are taking within ourselves? This work is much more than anyone of the incarnations had to do. Is much more than Christ, is much more than Rama, much more than Shri Krishna. So create such great people among you. Because I have the power. 
Only thing you have to have, the absorption power. The acceptability. But if you run after something very cheapish, and something very frivolous, is impossible. You have to ask for your depth, and you have to take in whatever is emitting from My being.
I hope now, you all will take it up seriously,  do your 

At Krishna River, Brahmapuri

meditation every morning, whatever may be the time. 
Every morning you have to do the meditation. And we have to see that we finish our work in the night, and then we do little meditation and then sleep off. 
Without meditation you cannot grow. And that's why everything doing, you have to know that you have to get up in the morning, do your meditation, and then you can take to your work. Day time if you want, you can rest for a while. Now we are in such a place that we have time to rest in a while. But morning time you have to get up whatever time you sleep. You have to conquer your sleep a little bit. It gives you lot of lethargy. 
Last night I don't think I slept before 3 O'clock or something like that. And then the whole day I've been busy writing reports, this that. If I can manage at this age, at your age you should be able to manage something like that! We have no time to sleep. We have no time to discuss, argue or to eat our food.

Meditate, that's all...

 We have only time to meditate, that's all. 
I wish all of you absorb my saying and under-standing without reacting to it. 
Please do not react! Don't think Mother is trying to chastise you! 
No. I am trying to help you to grow. This is the way you grow sometimes, very fast. So it's just your growth I'm worried about, and nothing else.
So, may God bless you all!
I was very happy the way you were singing all the songs and the way you expressed yourself.
1989-12/28 and 30: Puja, Brahmapuri, India

http://www.nirmalavidya.org/en/catalogs/events/detail/1990.html

CONTINUED/ http://swayamblog.blogspot.fr/2014/03/what-is-our-religion-2.html

http://swayamblog.blogspot.fr/2014/03/what-is-our-religion-1.html
http://swayamblog.blogspot.fr/2014/03/what-is-our-religion-2.html
http://swayamblog.blogspot.fr/2014/03/what-is-our-religion-3.html
http://swayamblog.blogspot.fr/2014/04/what-is-our-religion-4.html

(*) Swayamblogger

You have to please me = 'You must develop the religion of your spirit'. As t is just the last sentence above, it indicates  how to please Her.

What have we to offer on Mother's Birthday??

"What are their plans?" 

"Ah.....My heart just weeps. 
At what time I have come on this earth, where I have to see human beings hating each...?...
 All our activities as Sahaja yogis, I never realized were so important. 
We have to give so much time, not to bother about nonsensical, frivolous things, but something serious that is within us or without. 
That must be taken out. 
If I ask you how many people you hate, you may say twenty people...and...[Pause]

Remorse

See the thing, whole atmosphere and all this fills Me with such remorse that I just don't know what are we going to do:  the Sahaja yogis- what are their plans?
Will you please look into yourself and think what constructive work we are doing and what destructive work we have been doing? 
You need a big shock to understand this. 

" a big shock"

I like the way we have programs and pujas 
and all that, 
but
if you ask My Inner Being,
I know it is very, 
very, unhappy, very, very sick. 
At this time what you have to do as Sahaja yogis, as Sahaja yogis, minimum of minimum, you should put full attention. ... see, the trouble with Sahaja Yoga is that you all start enjoying yourself and then you don't see around what is happening.

"It is within us"

Now I must tell you, I am now in the midst of war between myth... [Pause] 
Is it a, area, is it a, I don't know what should I say is it within us, 
there is still lurking some kind of a weakness that we do not try to fight our behavior. 
I would now request you all to meditate on  yourself and see for yourself what is wrong. It's a big shock and to reduce this shock, what can Sahaja yogis do?
 It's a big lesson now for all of us, to see for ourselves:
"Are we all right or we go on hating others?"
I want to touch the deepest part of your heart, 
which should reconcile. 

Hebron, Israel, 2014

I am sure you all will under-stand the magni-tude of danger that awaits. 
Maybe there may not be any human beings left, maybe there may not be any children left, because if this kind of thing is working out, it's very difficult, very difficult [Long Pause]
My whole existence gets shaking, gets shaken up. 

Birthday 2010

You all should see in every nook and corner of life - where is this talk going on? Where are people talking of cruelty? What's happening? You know it.
Whatever I think ...it's not one, it's not two, it's all of us. [Pause] 
The fight that I am having is of a serious nature, no doubt. But if you all can fight collectively, how much we can work it out. [Pause] 

2010 Shiva puja, Genova

My all efforts, under-standings, powers, every-thing is now in your hands and that's what you should be prepared for. Not by just reading something or talking about it. 
You have to build up within yourself the power of love. I'm sure with the opening of the Sahasrara, you will do that. But try to read something, to understand something, with the power of love.

I hope you people have understood what I want you to do. A new generation is coming up. 
All of you, all of you are in My Heart and I love you very much and I want you people to come as soldiers to fight with Me.
I am also told that there are some people who are forming groups: Extremely negative attitude!
At this time what we need is a complete solidarity.
So all such people whom you see, tell them to behave themselves.
No use making them Sahaja yogis!

I am sure, it's really heartfelt desire of Mine, that you should become really soldiers of love and peace, because that is why you are here. 
You are born here for that. 
So enjoy yourself.

http://www.vimeo.com/25792785
Navaratri 2001, Greece.
http://www.nirmalavidya.org/en/catalogs/events/detail/3093.html

TRAGIC RESPONSIBILITY AROUND CRIMEA - What 'commitment' means

Because, in the older times, the LAWS were guaranteed by the Divine revelation, and a Last Judgment, be it Hell or Karmas. This is no more.
Since 18 c, the COMMON law is agreed by the people, for the people, and so on. Of course, the last lower-class person is not going to fix anything. Elites do!
And the AGREEMENTS among elites of different countries become the models by which ordinary people will rule their own personnal and social life.

1948, Eleanor Roosevelt

After WW2, the Nuremberg trials, and the UNO, have set up a common law for 30 years. USSR and USA agreed to maintain a balance, Europe/UNO developed a Human-rights set of ethics, peoples got independent states, WITHIN such agreements
(France HAD TO free Algeria, Cuba could not be invaded… 1968-Prague remained in Moscow's zone…And later, Kabul cannot host terrorists, and Assad cannot use toxic gas)

Pro-Russian Cassacks in Crimea , march 2014

NOW, IF PUTIN, OBAMA and others do not respect their engagements about UKRAINE, The meaning of commitment will be destroyed.
1/ extremists will find a justification to pure violence, and terror, instead of being limited by International diplomacy and laws.

2/ other countries will develop their own WEAPONRY, before feeling under any urgent menace (Click: «Four former Soviet satellites in Central Europe signed a military pact on Friday to coordinate defence planning and to create a joint combat unit to operate under NATO and European Union (EU) auspices, in response to the Ukraine crisis.»)

3/ Common ethics will fall down: if USA can sign a treaty which is worth nothing, I can sign any contract and cheat on it - Maffia rules!

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THIS is what happened in the THIRTIES. They let Hitler do whatever he wanted, in violation of the 1919/20 treaties. Draft, arms, Czechoslovakia. Then, 20 millions deaths in Europe, and 60 in the whole world.
This is what COMMITMENT  means.

US President Clinton, Russian President Yeltsin
and Ukrainian President Kravchuk
after signing the Trilateral Statement in Moscow in January 1994
that became the basis for the Budapest Memorandum

 - Article one of the agreement states that:
"The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine … to respect the Independence and Sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine."
http://www.cfr.org/arms-control-disarmament-and-nonproliferation/budapest-memorandums-security-assurances-1994/p32484

Vulnerability: Can Sahaja Yoga be destroyed?

1994-04/05: Lane Cove River Park Picnic, Sydney, Australia :
So we should not have groups. We should have no groups. 

Nothing should be a secret. 

Everybody should know what everybody is doing. 

Shri Mataji as baby

That is how collectively we'll be all right. Because supposing somebody comes and tells you, 'All right, I'll make you something special and for that this is to be done.' It has happened before, with your leaders also, that they use to tell them in their ears that, 'Mother has told me to do this. Mother has told me to do.'
Never listen to such people.
You've got leaders whom you can ask what is good and what is bad. If not, you can even write to Me, but don't listen to such people who are telling you things just to destroy - destroy Sahaja Yoga, destroy the only hope for the whole world.
You have to be very, very careful about it and if you are careful, I am sure, you have now the insight, you have now the powers, you have now the authority. Everything is there, no doubt, but vulnerability is the problem I sometimes feel. For that you have to be very, very careful because now, as you see in Sydney, …/… 

Early public program in India

 
1994-07/18: Speech at the airport, Austria:
I'm very happy to see you all here. It's really nice to meet you all like this, because in Cabella I never get a chance to talk to anyone.
I'm sorry I've had some very bad reports which I must tell you. It's very important. I always used to praise Austrians very much that they are so many and so good, very good Sahaja Yogis. 

But the reports I have are horrible. 

Other people from other countries have told me that:

 "Mother, You are praising them, but You better warn them. Because they are not taking Sahaja Yoga so seriously as they should have done."
Moreover some people who come to Cabella go on talking against some other group. And they told me there are groups formed among these Sahaja Yogis who are influenced by these groups and their grudges and their complaints.
They've become very mental, they want to solve their problem mentally. This was a very big shock for Me.  And they went to such a limit to say that, "Mother, this time You shouldn't allow them to have any Puja." I said, "All of them are not like that." They said, "But still. Quite a lot of them indulge in such cheapish things that we are surprised."I must tell you one lady came all the way to Taiwan to complain against Hamid. And she told Harald, who is a very sensible Sahaja Yogi that she has some physical problems, so she wants to see Me. So Harald said, "All right, you can go and tell Her." But all that she did was to tell Me what was wrong with this one or that one and how Hamid was and what did happen. I was really surprised, I said, "You come all the way to Taiwan to tell Me this?" Then Harald got angry with her, he said, "You told me a lie, you told me that you have some physical problems and here what are you telling Mother?"

1981

This is the best way to destroy Sahaja Yoga and yourself.
Sahaja Yogis never talk ill of each other behind their backs. I don't know, this - maybe, I think, this [E.] started this group, or maybe, I don't know how this group business has started. She was the first, who told Me that there are many, who are against the leaders. It's only here I find all this - why should it be?
You are people of great heritage. I could have understood this from Germans, but no, they are absolutely, absolutely perfect Yogis, those who are there. I cannot understand how Sahaja Yoga gives you time to do all these things. If you are busy with Sahaja Yoga you will have no time even to talk ill of anyone. But the pressure was so much on Me that I thought I better talk to you people about it and tell you very frank. You cannot be mental. If you become mental you'll be destroyed, completely.
As soon as you come on your Agnya you lose your vibrations. You start judging things, you start analyzing things. In Sahaja Yoga you are there just to experience the joy. To be happy, to be one with yourself and everybody else. It's such a bad tendency to talk ill about other Sahaja Yogis or form a group.
You cannot have a group.

Delhi 1979

You are comple-tely integra-ted with the whole world. How can you have separate groups in a small place like Austria? When you are one with everyone. Even in America the news has gone that [they've created ?]. For one [E.], for one woman if you are going to ruin yourself I have nothing to say. She is a very self-centered, stupid woman. She never asked Me what she was doing. She went on her own, her everything. And she has no business to do this. But she has created this thing in you. 

Most surprising thing is, when you had a horrible leader like [M.], who turned out to be a devil later on, you were quite all right, you were very normal. That means:

you need a Hitler or what? It's very surprising!

1996-09/29: You Must Be Collective and Introspective, Shri Krishna Puja, New Jersey :

We had problems like this always with our collectivity here.
For example, a lady, you know, she is a big lady, I think. She started correcting people. "Why do you put here? This thing is getting dirty. That thing is this and that."
Such a woman should be sometimes sent to some stable to clean it! Then she will give up these nonsensical ideas that she has. If you are a Sahaja Yogi you cannot behave like this. And this kind of a behavior can destroy Sahaja Yoga.
Have you ever heard Me saying that, "This is dirty, this is not good, I don't like this?" Did I say, ever?

1997-12/31: Shakti Puja, Kalwe :
I was told that this year, on coming here, will be Sahaja yogis who will go astray, they'll do dirty things, bad things and, I should say, things which are not pure and
they will destroy Sahaja Yoga.
If they are predicted like that, you can imagine at this age of Mine, I'll have to fight it. 

«...they are not taking Sahaja Yoga so seriously as they should »

But you all can fight it by under-standing that it's not your life, this is not a Sahaja life and you have to live in a Sahaja manner, must bring a good name to Sahaja Yoga. 

Not artificially but really, people should say that, if they have met any saints: they are in Sahaja Yoga.

C A L A M I T I E S, and..WRATH of God

«...we are still backdated» from 1976... to 2000

«...You all must dedicate your life to Sahaja yoga and give more and more. Among us there are some people who have given a lot, and by that, they have achieved a lot, too. 
You have to give, talk about it, spread it and bring more people to get this, otherwise they will be left out of evolutionary process.
There's no time for you to doubt and think; don't waste your time in all these useless activities! 
If you have still doubts, its better to give up. 
It's high time that you get into the process.»  

1976-03/30: On Meditation / Gudi Padwa, Delhi

In the same way your attention should be, all the time on Sahaja Yoga: 
"What's happening in Sahaja Yoga? 
Where are we? 
Where are we going? 
Where is Mother? 
What part She is? 
What is She doing?" 
That is, now if you put your attention to [that], your negativity, will absolutely disappear because attention, which was involved into negative things, will get absolutely detached, and you'll start thinking about Sahaja Yoga. 
So now as you are mahayogis we have to make it a Mahayoga. 
And unless and until that level is achieved by you, then, we should think that 
we are still backdated 
and I don't know in the turning of the wheel, how many will be left there!

1990-05/06: Sahasrara Puja, Fiuggi Italy

There's a big transformation which is taking place. In that transformation also your rising is taking place. 
There's a big evolution going on, 
and those who will not evolve properly will be left behind. 
As it is said that this is the last judgment, and you'll be judged, you'll be left behind. 
You cannot adhere to people who are rising higher, with your weight you'll fall down.
So, for you to understand Christ, is all these qualities you must have.,
If you are hot-tempered, all right, go and beat yourself with shoes. But if you're not, then you need not. 
You must know what you are. 
First of all introspect! Accordingly, you should work it out, but this ritualism is not allowed in Sahaja Yoga all the time.
I would love all my children to be extremely loving and collective.

1997-12/25: Christmas Puja, Ganapatipule

You are saved from so many things. Say, even if there's pollution, for Sahaja yogi, it won't matter. Even if there is a disaster of a earthquake, the Sahaja yogi will be saved. 
But why not save the whole world?

Time series of billion dollar disasters in the U.S. Credit: NOAA/NCDC

Calamities after calamities are coming, 
and if you have compassion 
you must think 
of the people who can get into any calamity 
or into any trouble. Of course, I can cure many people, no doubt! - but I don't know how to make Sahaja Yoga very collective.
Now you are so many people here, you all can start giving realization to at least hundred people {=100 per sahaji}. Go everywhere, talk about Sahaja Yoga, sing the praise of the Divine, and you will save the whole world. It's not by saving some few people you can have the great Satya Yuga, but you have to also save this Mother Earth. You have to save the people who are in it.

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I mean, the way these people are, I have seen so many of them on the television. They, shamelessly they are talking about something which they don't know. And they have thousands and thousands people behind them. Not that the people are stupid, not that they want to go on a wrong path; but these people who are false or who are wrong know how to entice them, how to capture them, how to talk to them. But Sahaja yogi, you see, if he sees somebody with a negative vibrations, will run away, will escape such a society, will not go near them and will say, "Oh, very bad vibrations, we don't want."
So you have to be courageous and get into these places,talk to people and make it collective. 
Otherwise you cannot save, save this world from the wrath of God. God is wrathful, no doubt.

Flood in Hrishikesh

For you He'll save you, but what's the use? 

We have to save, save this Mother Earth, and for that you have to be prepared, you have to work it out.
At wherever you get a chance you must spread Sahaja Yoga. Some people told me, "Mother, if You come, then it will be all right." Why? What's so much?
You can be also like me, you can talk about it to people. I started Sahaja Yoga with one person. At that time it was complete darkness everywhere - no seekers, nothing, and horrible people!- but it worked, and it cleared. 
So, one person can get so many Sahaja yogis, why not you people do the same and talk about it?
Your behavior, your style, everything will definitely impress them. 
One has to work it out ,in such a manner that you achieve our goal of collective consciousness.

The 1999/2000 effect

It's not only for Sahaja yogis, it's for everyone, so that all these calamities that are happening, horrible things that are happening will stop. Completely stop, I assure you, it can be stopped; because you are always saved, so all people who will be getting realization will be saved. 
Why not talk openly about it, telling people that 
"If we do wrong, if we are immoral, if we are cheats, if we try to oppress others, and we become so much a power of destruction, then these collective disasters will be there, 
and I think we'll be responsible for that." [we= people]

Everything you take up, any subject you take up, you don't have to start an organization to fight it. 
But only your power of convincing people and bringing them to Sahaja Yoga will make such a difference.

2000-07/23: Guru Puja,Cabella

Swayamblogger suggest to go to the constant permanent Prophecies by Shri Mataji,
click on these links
From 1975
http://swayamblog.blogspot.fr/2014/08/the-responsibility-of-destruction.html
From 1989
http://swayamblog.blogspot.fr/2012/07/1989-within-ten-years.html
From 2002
http://swayamblog.blogspot.fr/2013/06/the-biggest-calamity-is-adishakti-2002.html

Now look at the food growing areas laid over the disasters. There is hardly any crop region that hasn't experienced a natural disaster in 2011. 

It paints a very unsettling picture. 

HERE/: http://standeyo.com/NEWS/11_Food_Water/110516.nat.diz-crop.impact.html

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THE LAST MANIFESTO

Meditation
Sangha
Shri Mataji Mahavatar

click to the page:
Sad'Shiva final manifesto

. ..First of all you can use a group if you want, and afterwards 
you should do it individually. 
Can you imagine all of you, if you become gurus, how many Sahaja yogis we'll have all over the world?

I don't want to tell anybody individually, 
but you all can find out. 
Say four, five people can join together, and they can find out from each other if they are all right or not, if there is missing, if they are catching. 

But if they say there:
 you are all right, 
then 
you can become gurus and
you can preach Sahaja Yoga. 

This is your responsibility. 

This is how Sahaja Yoga will grow. 
Otherwise after I retire or I don't go anywhere, 
then Sahaja Yoga will go
into 
waste.

Guru, 2008

«...we don't want to have a priest class as Gurus. »

"...I have to warn..."

«.../...The punishment that can take place in those days of last judgement could be very serious and as a Mother I have to warn all of you, 
those who have started their centers 
or those who are becoming Gurus as leaders 
that you have to have a very detach mind and a clear cut understanding within yourself. You can not mishandle money. You can not misappropriate money, you can not use anything for your own purpose, which belongs to the collective, ....

«.../...The fourth type are the people who try to put their conditioning on Sahaja Yoga, like somebody who is a Hindu 
and he is fasting say, most of the days they fast, I don't know which one is fasting. 
.../.... All such conditions if a leader tries to put forward saying that Mother said so he will be doubly punished. 
We are belonging to the true religion of a true, pure universality. 

And, maybe...

«.../... Gradually whatever the leaders will do will be followed by the followers. 
...A leader who is very dominating, or who is very possessive or aggressive will create leaders who will be of the same nature. 
And another one who is very much conditioned will create conditioned followers. 
And may be, 
I may not find 
any relationship 
with them. 
So we don't want to have a priest class as Gurus. 
Priests are different from Gurus. 
We do not want people who take upon themselves the laws of God and use them for their own purposes...»

1987-01/08 The Duties of a guru

http://www.nirmalavidya.org/en/catalogs/events/detail/1558.html
http://www.amruta.org/1987/01/08/the-duties-of-a-guru-ganapatipule-1987/

THE DESTRUCTION OF SAHAJ INSTITUTIONS HAS BEGUN

Thursday 02/06/2014 :

SCANDAL / TREATMENTS SUSPENDED / PHYSICAL OUSTING / CALL TO LYNCHING
VASHI: NEW DOCTORS IN PLACE/ NON YOGIS TO BE HIRED !!

Here is the latest information from the patients of Vashi hospital:
Today, February 6, 2014, Mumbai LET representatives came to the Health Center to take the hard drive with all the information, as they said, to keep it at their center.
Dr. Madhur Rai asked to allow her to copy her personal data. And to ensure the presence of not involved person, she suggested inviting a policeman, without uniform, in civil clothes, so that he could make sure that only personal information is copied and the atmosphere is kept peaceful.

A new Sahaj Style?

It was followed by overreactions of the doctor(*)appointed by LET in place of Dr. Rai. So previously nervous actions of the new doctor now escalated into a scandal. The doctor felt that it is against her the policeman was to be called and blamed them in asahaj behavior. She threatened to raise the whole Mumbai collective to come and lynch the doctors and to open a criminal case on Dr. Sandeep Rai.
(*)Dr Badgee. The lady is a new doctor in chief and her husband is the administrator.

Dr. Madhur Rai was seized by guards when she tried to get out of the gate. Dr. Madhur was first confused, then burst into tears .

    «...one should not get involved into any negative
 thoughts of others ,or negative doing of others.
Is a warning today I wanted to give you all,...»

Few days ago it was known that she was leaving. By tonight she will leave the hospital.
On the evening meditation doctors will announce that they collectively will leave the hospital for a few days, leaving it without the usual process of continuous treatments.
They ask the world collective to send love and do bandhans for the current situation and avoid confrontation and physical aggression.
With the request to notify all collectives and support the doctors,
Patients of Vashi hospital
quote: 2000, 10-08, Cabella.
next step Vaitarna ? ?

Bhaskar Subramanian  wrote on face book in 2013:

We had many students from January 2013 till June 2013... we could increase the Academy Bank balance ..... The LET Mumbai members never come to see what is the real problem inVaitarna and after many request from me for the repairing the building, coloring , changing of Doors which were spoiled and lack of road, light facilities ....

I was little worried about the Building during Heavy Rainy season ... 

Then on 16th September I called Shri Sudershan Sharma... head of the LET Mumbai and told him about the plight of the academy and also about the creation of website about the academy even though it is nine months it has not come up... for this He was telling he is busy for the Ganapatipule seminar which is in December...

27 October at 19:47 • Like Bhaskar Subramanian 

...for this I told him If he cannot give time and if there is any fund needed I can talk Genral Kapoor Indian National trust or to the world Council ... as this Academy is International ..... HE SHOUTED on me as if I am a low class servant and I have done a very big crime and told me that I should not talk to other trustee members ... or world council.. and said that He doesn't like my working ..... 

for which I said I am worried only about Shri Mataji's liking and asked him a list of names with whom I should not talk and the reason why I should not talk ... I knew everyone personally and I love and respect all the yogis around the world .... for that day He cut the phone...

SWAYAMBLOGGER writes: 
Maybe now, that Vaitarna academy is at risk, 
Vashi aggressive anti sahaj behaviours have been evident our readers will understand better that:
"This incarnation can be wasted"
http://swayamblog.blogspot.fr/p/body-and-incarnation.html
and: "Mother does not do everything"
http://swayamblog.blogspot.fr/p/true-dynamism.html

«...What is the collective problem? - Then you have no doubts about...»

ON NIRVIKALPA : 1977, and still unknown...

Supposing you have been doing lot of, see, light puja, you see, what you call the Jyoti Puja, in your previous lives, then you can see My vibrations. There are two, three people who can see My vibrations coming and going; they see all the movement [of it?].

Supposing you have been doing Devi Pujas, so you are a Devi [pujari?], you are a (I Hindi word) of the Devi Puja, then you see some things of Devi’s (Hindi word). You can see that also. That is a better thing than to see before. Because if you see before realization, means you are a possessed person, somebody is giving you ideas. After realization you start seeing certain things, then it has some meaning. So the gradual growth of the flower starts.

Then the second stage where you become nirvikalpa, where there is no vikalpa. 
Just now in Delhi there are very few who are like that, very few.

Because, first of all, by temperament they {human beings}are vikalpis [ED. ‘doubters’].
The reason is, here is a complete atmosphere of vikalpa.

If you say something, another one will pull you down by saying something else. So, [the thing is?], the whole atmosphere is so vikalpi that you are not yet subtle about it, about the Sahaja Yoga, still in vikalpa. But we have some very great sahaja yogis also in Delhi, very great. So the vikalpa is there. 

Now you will say, “How do you become nirvikalpa?”

Supposing you are in the water, you are afraid of getting drowned. You are picked up and put in the boat so you are not afraid of becoming drowned. But when are you settled? When you are settled. I mean, it is such a state that: “When are you settled in a boat? When you are settled in a boat.” I mean, that’s all I can answer you - you have to be settled.

But when you bring your "Spirit' to your brain-

this is the second state-

then you really become Self-realized, 

in the full way.(Shiva 1984)

But with that you get certain powers: your Kundalini starts showing, you see. 

We have in Bombay some people whose Kundalini is at least one foot higher, one foot high, you can see it. You can or may not, but so many people can see that, and they are very deep people, very deep.
At the nirvikalpa state, the collective consciousness becomes very subtle, subtler, subtler. At that stage you can understand very deep significances of things, and the reality starts becoming clearer.
For example, you start understanding the working of the Kundalini, you start understanding how it penetrates, you start understanding how it works out, you can use it for experimentation, with your own hand you can move it as you like. You can cure people and you can show the Kundalini is working in different ways. You can combine the permutations and combinations of Kundalini, you can do.
You can say that in the first year of music you just learn the seven notes and two other notes [just like that?] and ordinary ragas. But when you grow subtler and higher, then you know all the minute points how to create.

So at the nirvikalpa you need not put your hand towards the person, nothing, sitting down you know where it is. What is happening? Who is catching? What is the problem? What is the collective problem? Then you have no doubts about Sahaja Yog, nor about Kundalini, nor about anything, no doubts at all. But at that time you start experimenting with it, you start using it, mastery starts. At this stage the chitta, the consciousness, becomes subtler.

Now, somebody was sitting with Me: outside they knew that this gentleman is going to get realization, they knew that Mother was giving realization to someone.
Such people are very satisfied people; they do not grudge and grumble about small things. They do not enter into small things at all, they are not bothered, they live in a big way. They are not touched. Their attention is not in the gross, they have no time for outside gross things. So their attention is very deep into the subtle forms. They are not bothered. 

Such people are satisfied souls.
Such people are the ones who are going to create a pillar for Sahaja Yoga. 

Because when somebody sees such a person, a transformed person like that:

 “Just look at this man! He’s such a great person and he was such a horrid man -and how has he become like this? How he has {been}transformed!” 

At this stage, at the nirvikalpa state, the vibrations emit. 

Then you can sit with Me and you start giving. Then there is no questioning at all. 

And such a man can get into a terrible temper, if he sees somebody misbehaving with Me: 

he can’t bear misbehaving with Me.

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TALK AND WORKSHOP TO NEW PEOPLE

Melbourne 13 March 1983. Video capture.

So we have to sort them out to begin with, because
the second stage of awareness is doubtless awareness: 
you are doubtless
about yourself,
doubtless about the working of Sahaja Yoga,
doubtless about God’s existence,
doubtless about His Laws.
You become absolutely doubtless, not mentally, it’s a state.
It’s a state of your being by which you achieve lots of results and you really become powerful: you can see your compassion so powerful, so discrete, so understanding, so forbearing.
 And you are amazed of yourself, you really become a saint in the real sense of the word, that you become humble, flowering, beautifully, not taking anything aggressive upon yourself; and you are really in the Kingdom of God that you feel that you are looked after, protected, guided, blessed, every moment you walk along.

And that’s the state everybody should aspire to reach, this doubtless awareness;
and unless and until you reach that state, 
we don’t call you sahaja yogi,
you may start calling yourself, but that’s left to yourself.
There are not sort of… we do not have sort of certification, or things going on; or we do not give any written certificates to people, nothing of the kind.
It is you who have to certify yourself.
So gradually people grow up into beautiful beings. They start having their self esteem fully established, understanding themselves.

http://www.nirmalavidya.org/en/catalogs/events/detail/3301.html

 Converation with yogis. Melbourne (Australia), 13 March 1983.

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